Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55

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Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55 Feb 1, 2016 20:15:33 GMT

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Post by mortlach on Feb 1, 2016 20:15:33 GMT

(Without comment) 2-gram frequency stats are presented for:

War and Peace converted to runeglish
The So-Far-Translated-Pages of the Liber Primus
Pages 0 55, in total and divided up into 8 sections by their page border

Graphs Show the the intensity (and log intensity) "Heat Maps"

War and Peace 2-Gram Count

imgur.com/dsEF1L0

Translated Pages 2-gram Count (log)

imgur.com/mBRqyv1

Translated Pages 2-Gram Count (linear)

imgur.com/wlGJha2

Pages 0-55 2-Gram Count

imgur.com/eAVCeeC

8 Sections 2-gram Count

imgur.com/9vmhunx

The raw data can be found here:
pastebin.com/JSa4y4gX

Last Edit: Feb 1, 2016 20:20:14 GMT by mortlach

friendlygiant New Member Posts: 2	Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55 Feb 4, 2017 20:23:02 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by friendlygiant on Feb 4, 2017 20:23:02 GMT I'm amateur. But based on this data, is it fair to assume that pages 0-55 are randomly generated number(s)? Is there other possibilities?

mortlach Administrator Posts: 38	Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55 Feb 4, 2017 21:37:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mortlach on Feb 4, 2017 21:37:40 GMT There is a lack of repeated twin runes, (see the blue diagonal) We can estimate the probability of this would happening in a "true random distribution". Its vanishing small

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Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55 Feb 5, 2017 1:44:36 GMT via mobile

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Post by friendlygiant on Feb 5, 2017 1:44:36 GMT

I have limited (basically no) background in cryptography. But I did take stats and stuff in grad school. I read the wikipage and other forum stuff. If I wanted to get started how could I help out? I went to the freenode but felt noob and there wasn't much activity. Do I need like an advanced cryptography background to help?

helicotrema New Member Posts: 3	Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55 Dec 22, 2018 21:38:53 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by helicotrema on Dec 22, 2018 21:38:53 GMT IS the rate of translated twin runes in the LP more like : the war and peace runeglish or represenative of the rate in the untranslated pages?

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Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55 Jan 3, 2019 17:36:19 GMT

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Post by mortlach on Jan 3, 2019 17:36:19 GMT

>IS the rate of translated twin runes in the LP more like : the war and peace runeglish or represenative of the rate in the untranslated pages?

I get:
~5% of the runes in the solved pages are in a repeated rune-pair.
~6% of runes in runeglish war and peace are in a repeated rune-pair

Basically, nothing is like the low repeated rune count in the unsolved pages. The only thing that looks like the Liber Primus is the Liber Primus.

Last Edit: Jan 3, 2019 17:36:52 GMT by mortlach

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Simple 2-Gram Stats For Runeglish and pages 0-55

Post by mortlach on Feb 1, 2016 20:15:33 GMT

Post by friendlygiant on Feb 4, 2017 20:23:02 GMT

Post by mortlach on Feb 4, 2017 21:37:40 GMT

Post by friendlygiant on Feb 5, 2017 1:44:36 GMT

Post by helicotrema on Dec 22, 2018 21:38:53 GMT

Post by mortlach on Jan 3, 2019 17:36:19 GMT

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